Federalism

#1341 Dinner with Jefferson

#1341 Dinner with Jefferson

"I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend."

— Thomas Jefferson, 1800

This week, we ask President Jefferson about his famous dinner parties and their extensive menus. It was important to Jefferson to not appear too regal, and the dinner parties were kept somewhat casual. In 1802, a Federalist senator from New Hampshire was meeting Jefferson at a dinner when “a tall high boned man” entered the room wearing “an old brown coat, red waistcoat, old corduroy small clothes, much soiled—woolen hose—& slippers without heels.” He added, “I thought this man was a servant; but was surprised by the announcement it was the President.”

#1316 James Madison (Part Two)

#1316 James Madison (Part Two)

"to the press alone, checkered as it is with abuses, the world is indebted for all the triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression."

— James Madison

We discuss James Madison again this week, President Jefferson's good friend and ally. The question is, what is America? Is it a compact of sovereign states? Or is it as a nation state whose constitution begins with the words, "We the People"?

The Re-Assertion of Norms

When the Federalist Congress went too far in 1798 during the Quasi War with France, the country righted itself at the next election. The Federalists passed the Alien and Sedition Acts, and the discriminatory Naturalization Act. Jefferson, who was often a rash civil libertarian, over-reacted with his secretly-written Kentucky Resolutions, which represented a kind of sour grapes secessionist threat to the future of the constitutional settlement. 

Still, the Federalists paid a huge, even fatal, price for their willingness to trample on the Bill of Rights during the undeclared naval war with France. The newly-hatched Republicans came to power in 1800, led by Jefferson and Madison, and the Federalists who had panicked in 1798 and violated the Bill of Rights were put on a course of political extinction. By 1808, when Madison was elected to succeed Jefferson, there was virtually no Federalist Party left.

When FDR tried to pack the Supreme court in 1937, a bipartisan coalition in Congress prevented him from shattering the unwritten norm of nine justices and an essentially nonpartisan Supreme Court. Because of the perfect storm of the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, Hitler and Hirohito, Roosevelt won an unprecedented third and then a fourth term in 1936 and 1940. But just two years after FDR’s death, the American people adopted the 22nd Amendment insuring that no future president would violate the unwritten Constitutional norm of two terms only.

During war scares—the Quasi War of 1798 (Alien and Sedition Law), the Civil War (Lincoln’s suspension of habeas corpus), World War I (the Red Scare and the espionage act), World War II (Japanese internment), the Cold War (Joseph McCarthy, and the House Un-American Activities Committee)—civil liberties have been subordinated to what those in power regarded as national security and national survival. In every case, I believe, those who violated the Constitution were just wrong. I would have thought until a couple of weeks ago that no American of 2018 would retrospectively support the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. At any rate, my point is that after each of these national security scares, two things happened. First, once we had calmed down, we gravitated back towards greater respect for the Bill of Rights, greater adherence to American constitutional norms; but, second, every time such violations of the Bill of Rights occur, it makes it a little easier to justify the next set of Red Scare policies. The power of the executive expands in crisis and that power never quite fully subsides. 

We are not living in an especially dangerous time. The economy is booming. We are at last winding down our disastrous wars in central Asia and the Middle East. Islamic terrorism is still a very serious problem, but you have to admit that it has substantially subsided, and it has not become the existential threat we all feared it was going to be—not yet, at least. Crime is down. 

So why is our president kicking down the guardrails of American small-c constitutional norms? Is it worth creating a national crisis over what are called the Culture Wars? Really? However imperfect a national candidate Hillary Clinton was, who really wants to lock her up in federal prison? Assuming we could afford a Great Wall of America on the Mexican border, would it really solve the problems we are assured it would solve? However imperfect the FBI and the Department of Justice at times are, and however dubious some of its actions, does anyone really believe that it is engaged in a deep state attempt to remove the current president by a kind of executive branch coup d’état? Partisan they may at times be, but does anyone really think the great newspapers of this country routinely distort the facts in an attempt to bring down the president? Are they making up Scott Pruett’s peculations? Are they making up President Trump’s clear attempts to obstruct the Muller investigation? Did they invent Stormy Daniels? Did they invent the Access Hollywood tape? Did they invent the president’s deliberate snubbings of our longstanding allies? Most of what we know about President Trump’s weaknesses as a man and president come from his own Twitter feed. How can that be fake news?

My point is that we need to return to what Senator John McCain calls “regular order.” We need to lower the temperature, on both sides, and get on with the public business of the most important nation on earth in a rational, sensible, and mutually respectful way. We are behaving in a time of peace and prosperity as if there were a series of existential threats to the future of America that can only be addressed in apocalyptic terms and by way of a deliberate violation of American decency, due process, and American values. Everyone needs to calm down, read more, watch Fox and MSNBC less, and we need all to agree that there is infinitely more right about America than wrong, and that in many respects we have never had it so good.

We are lurching toward an existential crisis by letting the loudest demagogues on both sides scream incessantly that we are in an existential crisis.

Chill, as my daughter says. Just chill.


#1289 Jefferson's Vision

#1289 Jefferson's Vision

"Lightly governed, lightly taxed, highly educated, isolationist, farmer's paradise."

— Clay S. Jenkinson

This week, President Thomas Jefferson explains his own vision for America.

#1287 The Hardest Job

#1287 The Hardest Job

"I don't think that it's very useful to compare the burden of the presidency of 1803 … with the burden of the presidency in your time."

— Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

We talk with President Jefferson about an article written by John Dickerson of CBS regarding how difficult the office of the president has become. The article is titled "The Hardest Job in the World" and was published in this month's Atlantic magazine.

#1284 Foreign Policy

#1284 Foreign Policy

"peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none"

— Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address (March 4, 1801)

This week on the Jefferson Hour, we talk with President Jefferson about his struggles with foreign entanglements, and his disappointment with the American people's reactions to his decisions.

#1276 Revolutionary Summer

#1276 Revolutionary Summer

"I feel an Awe upon my Mind, which is not easily described."

— John Adams

Clay and David discuss the book Revolutionary Summer: The Birth of American Independence, referred to as "a distinctive portrait of the crescendo moment in American history from the Pulitzer-winning American historian, Joseph Ellis." The book chronicles the events of the summer of 1776 as America’s war for independence began, and how America was nearly defeated by the British.

#1268 Peaceful Transition

#1268 Peaceful Transition

"Most revolutions end with the establishment of a dictatorship."

— Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

#1253 Second Term

#1253 Second Term

"Nature intended me for the tranquil pursuits of science by rendering them my supreme delight."

— Thomas Jefferson

We return to the Jefferson 101 biographical series and explore Jefferson’s second term as President. We discuss the many difficulties he had, including the Burr conspiracy and the Embargo Act of 1807 to 1809.

#1252 Mildness & Amenity

#1252 Mildness & Amenity

"I am more candid in your era than I ever would have been in mine."

— Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

This week, we speak with President Jefferson about his hospitality and good manners. In her book, The First Forty Years of Washington Society Margaret Bayard Smith quotes federalist Supreme Court Justice William Paterson’s opinion of Thomas Jefferson. Of Jefferson he said,  “No man can be personally acquainted with Mr. Jefferson and remain his personal enemy."

#1242 Inside the White House

#1242 Inside the White House

"You can object to anybody's politics, but I firmly believe that you can't object to President Obama's character."

— Beau Wright

President Thomas Jefferson speaks about the White House — during his time and ours — with this week's special guest, Beau Wright. Wright spent over five years serving in the White House, nearly two years of that time as Senior Deputy Director of White House Operations and Director for Finance.

Beau Wright is currently Director of Operations for United to Protect Democracy.

#1235 American Character

#1235 American Character

Alexis de Tocqueville wrote that, “As one digs deeper into the national character of the Americans, one sees that they have sought the value of everything in this world only in the answer to this single question: how much money will it bring in?”

This week we discuss the American character with President Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson believed that the American character would be the best in the history of the world: because of our agrarianism, our distance from the havoc of the Old World, our public education, and our resourcefulness that we needed to develop because there were no outside experts. While Adams felt that without a strong American character, "the strongest Cords of our Constitution [would be broken] as a Whale goes through a Net." John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were dear friends; they disagreed about many things. One thing they agreed upon was that this experiment would only work if we had unique character.

#1229 Vice President

#1229 Vice President

"The Vice Presidency turned out to be just what Jefferson had predicted: 'philosophic evenings in winter' and summers at his beloved Monticello." — Clay

This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, we return to "Jefferson 101", our biographical series. Reluctantly, Jefferson came out of retirement to serve as vice president for four years under his old friend John Adams. They were of different political persuasions and they, in a sense, became the heads of different political parties. Adams & Jefferson were friends when Jefferson's vice presidency began but there was a long period afterwards when they couldn't really abide each other; in the end, in 1812, their friendship was restored and it became one of the great reconciliations of American history. During his vice presidency, Jefferson contributed a rule book to the Senate: A Manual of Parliamentary Practice for the Use of the Senate of the United States.

Jefferson meant it: He preferred the happiness of Monticello to the burdens of power — but he loved this country more than he loved his own happiness.

Legislative Supremacy

Legislative Supremacy

"All positive legislation must come out of the congress of the United States. Any president who creates law from his desk should be impeached."

— Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

#1226 American Happiness

#1226 American Happiness

A variety of subjects are covered on the Thomas Jefferson Hour this week, including a discussion about Benjamin Franklin Bache's newspaper the Philadelphia Aurora, the effect negative press had on politicians during Jefferson’s time and an interview with Niya Bates about restoration work ongoing at Monticello.

#1224 Friends of the Hour

#1224 Friends of the Hour

On this episode, listeners call us and ask questions directly to President Jefferson.

The Greatest Single Thing About John Adams

The Greatest Single Thing About John Adams

"The Federalist party self-destructed. The primary Federalist was Alexander Hamilton, pretending to be a shadow president; the second Federalist was the sitting president John Adams; they could not see eye-to-eye, to put it lightly."