Dr. Kimberly Crowley speaks with President Thomas Jefferson about natural resources and Jefferson's expectations of each citizen. According to Clay, Jefferson believed that under the right circumstances each citizen could reach a level of enlightenment that would negate the need for intrusive and large government.
"I effectively created the seed of what would become the National Park system later."
— Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson
"Mayor Pete of South Bend is saying that he would welcome certain erasures of Jefferson from our public discourse." — Clay S. Jenkinson
Clay has returned from his recent travels and his search for America, and he updates us on that trip. We answer listener mail, including responses to the recent show, #1344 Baked In.
We speak with President Jefferson about current events including the government shutdown, philanthropy, and water shortages in Cape Town.
"Jefferson was a gentleman. Mountains weren't climbed in his time."
— Clay
This week, we speak with Clay about his recent mountain climbing experience and answer listener questions.